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I was at home.

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I got a phone call from one of
the Detective Chief Inspectors

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in the police, asking
basically who was in charge

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of the Major Crime Team that day.

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I was off, so I didn't
know who was in charge,

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but I, I asked that person,
um, "Why are you asking?"

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Er, and that's when
she told me about the,

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what had happened overnight,
on the suspension bridge.

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At that stage, I didn't know
what role I was gonna take

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within the investigation and,
but you could understand right

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from the start, this was gonna be
something big, something different.

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So, I, I just asked,
"So, what do we know so far?"

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So, I was told that
just before midnight,

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a male had gone onto
the suspension bridge

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pulling a suitcase behind him.

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People on the bridge challenged him
and at that stage, he ran off.

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And then straight after the
999 call, uniformed police attended.

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Those officers we deployed
that night at the bridge,

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no doubt their worst
nightmares came true.

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We don't get dismembered,

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decapitated bodies
in suitcases, ever.

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So, every available officer
that we had at our disposal

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would have been deployed
to that area, um,

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to help look for this male.

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So, we'd have used all the
resources we had available,

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so helicopters, staff on
their feet, on the ground.

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Unfortunately for us,
we were some time behind the suspect

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and he could potentially have
run into some densely wooded area

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with any number of ways
to escape from that woodland.

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I was appointed as a Senior
Investigating Officer for this,

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for this case.

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So, my job from that point on was
just to lead that investigation,

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to try to establish
what had happened.

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I've been in the police for,
for nearly 30 years now.

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I've been on the, er,
Major Crime Team for 12 years.

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So, first of all, I would have
spoken to the forensic leads

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to find out what they knew.

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I'll never forget
that phone call.

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They said, "We're at the mortuary...

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"..and we've got a torso
and some other body parts

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"within the suitcase
we've moved there."

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"Well, there's a second suitcase.

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"We've opened that and
there's an additional torso in it."

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At that stage,
I've got at least two bodies now.

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We've got a responsibility
to the public to keep them

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as safe as possible, but
we don't wanna cause alarm

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to the greater public of Bristol.

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So, we certainly wouldn't give
a press release of any details

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of what we're dealing with at
that stage, but news had travelled.

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The suspension bridge
is a main route into Bristol

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and the suspension bridge
is now shut.

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I've been a journalist
in Bristol for over 20 years.

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And for something like this
to happen there,

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it's completely unheard of.
Never has this happened before.

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We have a news meeting
every morning,

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and people said the
suspension bridge is shut,

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it's been shut all morning,
traffic chaos.

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And very quickly, rumours started
flying round the newsroom

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that maybe something
really suspicious

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had been found there
the night before.

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The police aren't
communicating with us,

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but we, we knew
there was something big.

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These investigations are
shaped by the decisions I make,

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and you can't make mistakes.

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So, it was really, really
important that we found out

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who that person was and
arrest them as soon as possible.

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I spoke to some of my
officers who had been out

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and spoken to members of
the public, who had actually

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engaged with the man before
he ran off from the bridge.

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So, for me, this was,
this was brilliant.

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This actually gave me
a, a lead, a start.

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England were
playing in the semifinal

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of the European Championship
against Holland and my son, Giles,

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had come from Florida and
he was gonna join me to watch it.

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When the match was finished,
it was time for him to go

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back to the other side of Bristol

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and then we walked up
for him to get his cab.

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And then we noticed
this strange business going on.

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There was this very tall man and
he was struggling with a suitcase.

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In fact, a couple of young women
who were coming across,

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tried to help him and they,
they couldn't do much.

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Giles sort of caught
the guy's attention and said,

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"Well, fellow, that's a very
heavy suitcase, clearly.

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"You know, gosh that was a struggle.
What have you got in there, a body?"

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We didn't think
too much about it then,

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but obviously sub, subsequently,
er, we both thought about it a lot.

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Emergency,
what is the location?

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He had been challenged
by a member of the public,

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a very brave member of
the public, on their bike.

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Had a, had a camera.

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He tries to push the phone
out the hand of the cyclist

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and runs off down the hill.

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Cyclist is recording
all of this on their phone.

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So, now I had an image of this guy,

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and the imagery of
the male was so good,

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that the decision was made
to put that picture out.

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I had a message
from my news editor,

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saying there's gonna be a press
conference at two o'clock.

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All morning, you've been waiting to
find out why was the bridge closed.

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And suddenly, the day just took on
a completely different shape.

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Good afternoon, everybody.
You want me closer?

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All the media were there.
You know, Sky, ITV, everybody,

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and there was, we just made
a big horseshoe shape of journalists

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at the end of the bridge,
where it was cordoned off

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and it was this moment
where they said...

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..."We've found not one,
but two bodies

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"in a suitcase on
Clifton Suspension Bridge".

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The city's most famous landmark.

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Sadly, the suitcases
contained human remains.

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And straightaway, it was like,
who are, whose bodies are these?

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And where is the person that
had brought the bodies to this,

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to the suspension bridge?

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Very quickly, the police
shared a screen grab with us

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that the cyclist
caught of him that night.

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We don't have a name
but we have a picture of the man

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they are looking for.

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Our immediate priority
is to locate the man

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who took the suitcases
to the bridge.

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They're telling you
they haven't got the suspect yet,

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but not to worry about it.

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But as a journalist,
that doesn't quite sit with you

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because you're telling me
that you've,

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you've got someone who's brought two
bodies up to the suspension bridge,

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but at the moment, that person
is currently on the run.

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- We've got the resources.
- The identity of the man, though?

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At this time, without the,
the forensic post-mortem results,

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I cannot comment on that
because truthfully, I don't know.

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Not, not the victims, sorry,
the man.

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The man we're looking for?

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Um, I know what I just shared
with you in terms of that, um,

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photograph, so at this time,
um, that, his identity,

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we are still working out
who that person is.

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And when the police
give you a picture like that,

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you know they need our help
and you're trying to work out,

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"Who is the suspect? Where is he?"

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{\an8}Police in the city
continue their search for a man

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{\an8}after two suitcases
containing human remains

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were found on the
Clifton Suspension Bridge...

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Straight from minute one,
I had an image of this guy.

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But we don't know who this man is
or what he's capable of.

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Has he got the potential
to injure further people?

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Clearly, my focus is on bringing
that person into custody.

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Just so they can't
harm anybody else.

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It's also really key that we
identify as soon as possible

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who our victims are.

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The easiest way we identify somebody
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and markings and scars.

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And as bad as it seems, that's
the realism we're faced with,

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is I haven't got that at this stage,
but I've got decapitated bodies

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and I don't know where the two,
the two heads are.

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And I need to identify
as soon as possible

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where the rest of those bodies are.

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In murder investigations,

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you generally get a couple of little
golden nuggets that sort of set you

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in the right direction, and then
you follow those, those nuggets.

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The crime scene investigators
that had located the second case...

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That case had a label on it.

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It was for an address in London up
in Shepherd's Bush in west London.

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That's my first real clue.

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I've got two victims and
I've got a potential address,

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so I sent one of my team off
to go and get a warrant

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to search that address.

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Almost simultaneously, whilst
my team in Bristol were getting

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the search warrants, we got what
I saw as, as a major breakthrough.

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It was a member of the public
that lives close to

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the suspension bridge, and
they'd seen all the police activity

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so they phoned in and said, um,
"Last night about 10-ish,

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"just after 10, I was outside
my address, put the bins out

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"and there was a, a red van
parked opposite my address.

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"And there was a male stood on the
kerb with a couple of suitcases".

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It was just obviously
too coincidental to what

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we were investigating, so
my next task was to speak to

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my intelligence team and said,
"Right", and literally,

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"Find me a red van
moving round Bristol".

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And really, really quickly,
they came back to me and said,

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"Neil, we've identified a red van
leaving around Clifton

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"around that time.

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"We've also done some
checks on it and that van

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"headed out of Bristol
towards London".

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Fortunately, we were able
to get a registration of that van

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and it identified
the owner of the van,

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so I wanted that person
arrested and interviewed.

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He says straightaway, "I picked
a male up from Shepherd's Bush

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"last night and took him
to Bristol in my van."

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"Here is a picture of the man
and here is his telephone number."

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And there's a WhatsApp image.

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And clearly the same male
that had booked the van

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was the same male that
had run away from the bridge.

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But also, and more importantly,
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we had a name - Yostin Mosquera.

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We ran some checks on it
through the computer systems

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and we find out he's
a Colombian national.

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We looked at his telephone and
where it last been tracking and, um,

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the phone was pinging out
towards the airport, so our biggest

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concern was that he'd gone
to the airport and got on a plane.

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So, we did all the usual
checks with the airport

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and they have got no evidence
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had left Bristol at that stage.

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But by that time, we had a lead.

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When the driver of the red van was
questioned, he told us the address

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that he had picked the man up from
was 9 Scott's Road in London.

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The exact same address
as the label on the suitcase.

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Hey!

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As I was driving into work
on the Friday, I took a phone call.

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In that call, I was told that
overnight, a call had come in

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to the Met, um, for
enquiries to be made

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at an address in Shepherd's Bush.

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I was told that the proactive team
had gone to the address.

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The flat was remarkably
clean and undisturbed.

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But on entering that,
they'd found a freezer there.

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When they'd opened the freezer,
they'd seen two heads in there...

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...and what looked like two hands
and two feet as well.

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And then, I was told that
I was gonna be taking it as the SIO

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and my team would be
investigating it.

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A whole world of things
running through my, through my head.

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We'd seen it in the papers,
what had happened down in Bristol.

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This was clearly
a huge investigation,

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so, um, it was gonna be
all hands to the deck.

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Over the next few days,
things start coming out.

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And that was when we were told that
the investigation had been widened

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and was now focusing on London,

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and that the Met Police
were leading on it.

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Teams in London
start gathering pictures

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of 9 Scott's Road being searched.

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So, that's when we start to suspect

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that that's where
the victims come from.

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Later, though, we find out
the name of the victims.

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Albert Alfonso and Paul Longworth

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had been in a civil partnership
together for many years.

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Friends tell us that they met
many years ago in the hotel trade.

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Albert had come over from France.
He was working in a concierge...

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...and Paul was a handyman.

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And you're trying to work out
what has gone wrong?

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What has happened here?
What is the story?

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It's almost like it's not real.
Certainly shock.

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It's like's it's almost happened
to someone that I, I didn't know.

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The Savoy was probably
the top hotel group in the world,

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certainly in this country.

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Paulie was the caretaker of some
property we had in Old Barrack Yard.

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Incredibly wealthy
people lived there,

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and he would do anything
the tenants needed doing.

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He would change lightbulbs, he would
keep the common parts clean.

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He would help tenants with their
bags, he would show new tenants in.

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Everybody liked him,
everybody knew him.

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He was just somebody I relied on.

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There he is, sitting next to my dad.

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My husband liked him, my family
liked him, my kids liked him.

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He was part of the family.
He got on with everyone.

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I believe they were the
first couple to get married

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at Fulham Town Hall after it became
legal for gays to get married.

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And here they are, looking
incredibly smart and well dressed.

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And there they are
with the registrar,

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and that's Albert
signing the register.

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Albert worked front of house,

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reception at the Intercontinental
in Park Lane.

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And he was very good at
that front of house smoothness.

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But I, I didn't know him
as well as I knew Paul.

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Paulie and Albert,
they were very much a couple,

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but they were very different.

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Very, very different.

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And how this could happen
to people like that, I don't know.

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I do not understand,
and I would like to understand.

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I cannot conceive of that
kind of thing happening.

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It's, it's not within my sphere
of consciousness,

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sphere of knowledge,
sphere of anything.

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I've dealt with many
murders in my career, um,

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and I think this is certainly
the most horrific,

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the most brutal I've
dealt with personally.

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From the post-mortem, it was
established that there were

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nine hammer blows
to the back of Paul's head,

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that were the cause of his death.

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And there were some defensive wounds
he had on him as well,

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where he'd tried to fight back.

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And Albert had 13 stab wounds
to the, to the torso and arms,

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and a further nine wounds
to the face as well.

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It was a really,
really brutal attack.

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Um, one of the worst,
most horrific attacks I've seen.

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There's always a mixture
of emotions in a case like this.

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Albert and Paul were murdered.

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They're no longer here, nothing
can bring them back, but for me,

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one of the key bits was keeping
the focus on Albert and Paul

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as the victims of this.

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So, a huge priority was,
was to capture and detain Mosquera

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as quickly as we could.

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Yeah, it was a massive concern
for me that we didn't know

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where Mosquera was.
We know that he'd committed

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or potentially committed
two horrific murders,

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and a real concern of mine
throughout the end of that week

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was who else is he gonna harm?

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You wake up on a Friday morning,
the first thing you're doing

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is checking your phone. Has he
been found? Has he been caught?

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And no, he was still on the run.

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But the police had now,
for the very first time,

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released the suspect's name.

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Yostin Mosquera.

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We're told that he's
a Colombian national

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and at that time,
we are told he's 24.

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At the moment,
this man is still on the run

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and that is what
everyone is following.

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Where is this man?
Where has he gone?

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We had no idea what
the motive for the murders was,

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so one of the considerations
or hypotheses

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we were looking at was,
was this a hate crime?

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There was a particularly big event,
um, in the Bristol area

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that weekend, Pride weekend.

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We knew by that point
that Albert and Paul were

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a gay couple who were married.

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Was this somebody
who was going to go on

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and target the LGBT
community further?

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At that stage, there's
just a buzz about the place.

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There's police everywhere,
there's extra police vans up there

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to reassure the public.
There's millions of journalists.

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There were more news
crews than actual residents.

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It was swarming.

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Stories like this are, are,
they're the biggest pitfalls

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for all, I'd say crime journalists.

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You don't want to do anything
which might jeopardise

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the police's efforts
to catch this person.

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But it was clear from what
we were getting that the police,

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they needed our help
to amplify the story,

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catch this man, put him behind bars.

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We had a man outstanding
who'd already killed two individuals

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and we didn't know
what his motive was,

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whether he was gonna
go on and kill more.

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But at that point, for me,
the key priority to that,

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we're dealing with a scene.

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I go down to every scene
to see it for myself

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because we can all
look at pictures, but actually,

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things sometimes look
and feel differently

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and there's, there's things
that don't always translate

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into pictures or videos.

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We've searched the bins
outside because people try

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and dispose of evidence.

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We found a knife outside that was
the murder weapon for Albert.

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And as soon as we walked
into the flat, in the hallway,

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the freezer was still there.

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But apart from the freezer,
the house was remarkably clean

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and undisturbed. Didn't look
like there had been two murders

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and dismemberments had taken place
in there a matter of days before.

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It's a one-bedroom flat,
but they were using it

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as a two-bedroom flat,
so there was no lounge, per se.

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To the right-hand side,
we had Paul's bedroom

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and then Albert's bedroom.

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In Paul's bedroom,
there was a hammer.

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And we found a plastic
bag in Paul's bedroom.

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We think that was
put over Paul's head, um,

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and he was hit over the head with
a hammer through that plastic bag,

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um, when he was being murdered.

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Then that would have absorbed
the blood within that plastic bag,

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rather than it spraying
across the walls and ceiling.

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It was unclear when Albert
and Paul were dismembered.

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But there was a small amount of
blood on the bathroom ceiling

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and if that's where
the bodies were dismembered,

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it must have been
cleared up fairly well.

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We found latex gloves, we found
what we call forensic oversuits

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that had been worn and to me,
they painted a picture of

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a premeditated, planned attack
and it wasn't something

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that had just happened
out of the blue.

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We knew who the suspect
was at that point,

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but we didn't know where he was and
what he was capable of doing next.

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He was a Colombian national.

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We had very little detail
of any criminal past

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or any criminal activity
he'd done previously.

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There was a very minor
traffic offence he had,

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um, on his record in
Colombia, and that was it.

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There was no criminal background
and we knew very little about him

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from the Colombians.

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We had no idea what the motive
for the murders was.

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But him being a Colombian national,

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was that linked to the cartels
and the drug trade?

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So, I had to keep an open mind.

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The nature of the crime, bodies
on a bridge, the person the police

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were looking for, I thought this
was something cartel-related.

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It's hard for your mind not to go
towards that stream of thought.

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Is this part of
a bigger drugs crime?

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Has he been sent
here to kill these people?

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There's all these theories that
are running alongside each other.

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So we, we tried a couple of
methods to find out

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who Yostin Mosquera actually is.

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Who, who is this guy
that we're looking into?

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Colombian police,
send them an email.

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Do they, do they
know of this person?

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Does he have a criminal record?
Have they come across him?

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OSIN, Open Source Intelligence work.

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Searching Google,
social media profiles.

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Just blank after blank after blank.

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But there are a few blanks littered
with tiny nuggets of information.

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There was the fact that
he did military service.

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There was some little
detail about a wife,

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00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,760
but again, you actually
don't know what to do with it.

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It was like this guy's a spook

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who's gone through a lot
of methods to scrub himself

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digitally from the online world.

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You start speculating,
how have these three come together?

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What is their relationship?
How do they know each other?

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We know he's a Colombian national,
but what else do we know about him?

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One of the things that is so
important to consider in this case

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is the culture that
Mosquera comes from.

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In Colombia, violence is used
as a problem-solving strategy.

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But what he did post-mortem,
post the murders,

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professionally speaking,
is incredibly chaotic.

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My name's Jo Clarke and I've
spent probably half of my career

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00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,400
working as a psychologist in prisons
with some of the most dangerous,

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damaged, disruptive
offenders in our system.

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When we consider what
Mosquera did post-offence,

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which was to dismember
Paul and Albert's bodies

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and put them in suitcases,
there are so many things

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that don't add up in his behaviour.

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You know, why did he make the
decision to leave some body parts

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at the house and to
take other parts with him?

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He decides to take
some parts in a suitcase

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to a place that they'd be
really hard to dispose of.

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There's no evidence that
he's been there before,

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and there were luggage
labels on the suitcases

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that he left the bodies in.

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And all of this points to something
really quite odd going on.

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He clearly isn't thinking
like most people think.

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One of the things that
really fascinates me

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about this offence is the fact
that there were two murders

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and they were committed
completely differently.

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When you look at the murder of Paul,

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he was hit with a hammer
several times,

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and it was likely to be a completely
instrumental use of force

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to ensure that he was dead.

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With Albert, judging
by the post-mortem reports,

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it feels like there's
a more frenzied attack.

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So it doesn't fit a pattern,
it doesn't fit a proforma.

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It's a really unusual offence.

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If I were to be presented
with this case to assess,

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I would want to go right back
to the start of the relationship

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of the perpetrator with the victims.

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But we don't know anything about
the nature of their relationship

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and the dynamic
of that relationship.

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Once we'd identified
Mosquera, we looked at his

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travel history and there
had been a previous trip

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00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,600
where he had come to the UK.

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00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,600
We also looked at Albert
and Paul's travel history, um,

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and Albert had travelled to
Colombia a number of times.

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00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,040
That was quite a surprise for us.

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00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,200
Yostin had travelled to the UK
on the 8th of June that year,

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so about a month before the murders,

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and we'd seen that he'd been
met at the airport by Albert.

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I was surprised
because at that point,

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we didn't know the relationship
between Albert and Mosquera,

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00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,840
so one of the key things is trying
to establish Yostin knew the victims

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and what their relationship was.

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Going through bank statements,
we were able to identify that

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Albert had paid for Mosquera to book
a flight to come over to the UK.

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00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,840
There would also be times
when Albert would send

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money over to him in Colombia.

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00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,760
There were 72 payments that Albert
made to Mosquera

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for between five and a half
and six thousand pounds,

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00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,320
um, into his account.

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Paul was funny. He liked a laugh.

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00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,200
Everyone liked him a lot.
He was a regular in our pub.

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00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,520
He was, er, a real nice... gentleman.

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00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,840
Paul was the main character,
not Albert.

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00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,000
Albert never made an
effort to speak to anyone.

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00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,640
It didn't seem like he was
overly inviting you to chat.

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00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,280
Paul would never talk about
what Albert got up to, or nothing.

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00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,440
He was kind of...

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00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,760
He just never mentioned.

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00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,760
What did I think had happened?
I don't know.

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00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,680
You think, think of lots of things
that could have happened.

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00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:26,080
People saying that Albert
went to Colombia with, er, this guy,

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00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:27,960
then brought him back.

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00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,000
And it wasn't the first time. He's
been over a few times, apparently.

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00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,600
Someone in the pub mentioned that
he's been for years, on and off.

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They were very different.
Very, very different.

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00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,400
I mean, I, I always
wondered about the relationship.

471
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,920
I never quite understood it.

472
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,520
Albert was also away a lot.

473
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,280
When he was in Oman,
or one of those countries,

474
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,600
he'd come back with
huge cans of Iranian caviar.

475
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,600
I remember once he brought a
beautiful Persian rug into the flat.

476
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,800
Things like that,
that made you suspicious.

477
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,840
36 hours after the suitcase
had been left on the bridge,

478
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,960
and we still didn't have a clue
where he was, but we still

479
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,840
had teams deployable,

480
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,680
teams available should
he be spotted in Bristol.

481
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:33,800
Then just before midnight
on the 12th into the 13th,

482
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,000
I had a, a phone call
from the Superintendent in the Met,

483
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,160
who said, "Neil, his phone's
moving again in Bristol."

484
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,120
And my next port of call
was to phone our teams

485
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,640
that were able to deploy.
Can you get a team together

486
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,600
as quickly as possible
and get out on the ground

487
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,560
and see if you can
try to locate him?

488
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,440
We knew his phone was moving
in Bristol, and those teams

489
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,200
took it on themselves to try to
predict where he was gonna go.

490
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,600
Kept getting some feedback from the
Met about where his phone was moving

491
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,640
and that was intermittent.

492
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,520
So, what could his
possible mindset be?

493
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,160
So, the team that were
deployed on the ground

494
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,840
thought to themselves, he's
probably aiming for a transport hub.

495
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,360
We knew that he wasn't
heading towards the airport

496
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,360
cos he was moving
in the wrong direction.

497
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,880
So the only other place was the
bus station or the train station.

498
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,960
This is
Yostin Andres Mosquera,

499
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,520
a 24-year-old Colombian national,

500
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,280
{\an8}last seen here, near the
Clifton Suspension Bridge,

501
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,240
{\an8}late on Wednesday night.

502
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,880
We'd been working on this,
trying to find him for three days.

503
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,160
I've got a lot of tired officers,
but you know, you've got a feeling

504
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,400
that in a minute, we're
gonna have him in custody.

505
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,400
{\an8}Give me your hand.
Hands! Hands!

506
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,200
Ooh! (bleep)!

507
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,360
I've got, I've got a hand,
I've got a hand, mate. Go!

508
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,800
Stay down, guv, yeah.

509
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,760
{\an8}At this time, mate, you're
under arrest on suspicion of murder.

510
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,160
You do not have to say anything
but it may harm your defence

511
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,040
if you do not mention when
questioned something

512
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,680
you later rely on in court. Anything
you do say may be given in evidence.

513
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,280
{\an8}Do you understand?

514
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,000
You are currently under arrest
for murder, OK?

515
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,600
{\an8}What's your name, mate?

516
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,760
{\an8}What's your name? "Nombre"?

517
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,200
{\an8}- Jot?
- Yeah.

518
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,120
Jot or Joss?

519
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,800
{\an8}Surname?

520
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,120
{\an8}- "Sir"?
- Jot, what?

521
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,040
- Mosquera?
- Yeah.

522
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:11,320
So, we'd gone from
the Wednesday morning,

523
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,920
Thursday morning to not
knowing who our victims were

524
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,000
and who our suspect was,
to 36, 48 hours later,

525
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,880
having this, having
the perpetrator in custody.

526
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,360
But Avon and Somerset officers
take real pride in what they did

527
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,240
to get it to that stage, I think.

528
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,880
It was a,
it was a huge relief,

529
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,280
but we had 24 hours to deal
with Mosquera in custody.

530
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:38,840
And the pressure is really on
to try and get to a point of charge

531
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,960
with the Crown Prosecution Service
by the end of those 24 hours.

532
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,120
My attention turned to what
we needed to speak to him about,

533
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,480
so we wanted to know
what had happened,

534
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,800
how he'd come to be
in this situation,

535
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,320
his relationship with
Albert and Paul, and ultimately,

536
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,280
why he had done what he'd done.

537
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,760
I was going through in my head,
there must have been a...

538
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,200
Something that led up to this,
a, a chain of events that's,

539
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,000
that's escalated to this point.

540
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,720
A key part of the investigation was
involving the search of the flat.

541
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,920
In Albert's bedroom,
we had several laptops,

542
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,240
mobile phones, hard drives.

543
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,080
There was a webcam
underneath the desk.

544
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,680
Huge amounts of
content on these devices.

545
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:45,400
So we had to get them
sent off to the lab

546
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,240
to be downloaded and reviewed.

547
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,120
So when we started reviewing, um,
digital media...

548
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,120
...we found pictures of Albert,
Paul and Mosquera.

549
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,760
And we'd established that
when Paul had just retired,

550
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,320
Albert and Paul both
travelled out to Colombia.

551
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,400
Albert paid for Mosquera to
travel down to the coastal resort.

552
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,280
Seeing the three of them together...

553
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,320
...was quite surprising initially.

554
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,520
Um, and I think it showed
that they were friends.

555
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,960
We then spoke to, um,
friends of Albert and Paul,

556
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,600
who were able to tell us
that Yostin had come over

557
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,800
and had been staying with them.

558
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,240
We started to build
a picture of Albert's lifestyle.

559
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,920
And when we started reviewing
the digital media devices,

560
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,360
we'd established
that Albert had a...

561
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,440
Had a particularly
high sexual appetite.

562
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,120
He liked being filmed
whilst he was having sex

563
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,600
and posted a lot of content online.

564
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,320
He also liked to engage in sexual
practices of being dominated.

565
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,880
He liked to be urinated and
defecated on, and vomited on.

566
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,760
There was a deviant sexual
interest in some very odd behaviour,

567
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,960
which is not within what most
people would consider normal,

568
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,760
acceptable sexual behaviour.

569
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,880
You're thinking this case
can't get any worse,

570
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,280
and then you find out that
they were into extreme sex.

571
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:28,240
I didn't think,
and it did catch me by surprise,

572
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,880
that sex played a factor
in this, this murder.

573
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,200
My biggest
concern was the webcam

574
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,360
that was underneath
the computer desk.

575
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,760
That appeared to have
been left connected.

576
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,680
The team had been
reviewing what they could,

577
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,400
when one of my team came into,
came into the office.

578
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,680
Um, he was white as a sheet
and said to me...

579
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,600
"Boss, you need to have
a look at what I've just found".

580
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,400
Didn't know what was,
what was coming.

581
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,560
So, I was,
"OK, what, what have we got?"

582
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:03,640
Um, he said,
"He's filmed the murder".

583
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,160
It became quite obvious quite
quickly that what had happened

584
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,320
inside 9 Scott's Road
had been videoed.

585
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,640
They'd set up, um,
a number of cameras within the,

586
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,920
within the bedroom of the house.

587
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,720
It's not unusual to, um,
to have murders caught on CCTV,

588
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,600
or caught on camera these days.

589
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,000
But to have cameras
specifically set up in a room,

590
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,800
and then go on to capture the
murder, that was a big shock for us.

591
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,960
You're thinking
that's brilliant evidence for us.

592
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:53,720
But this was really close up,
cinema quality footage,

593
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,240
and was a, a really
horrendous thing to watch.

594
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,160
And probably the worst thing
I'd seen in, in my career so far.

595
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,960
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